S1 E41. The Most Humorous & Shocking Revelations of Season I.

We’re very excited to bring you our final episodes of our first season of the Get The Lax Scoop podcast! Over our first forty episodes we’ve certainly learned a lot from our guests; some of the biggest names in the game and we hope you have too. 

For this next series we wanted to shift gears so we've put together a number of the most humorous and surprising answers we received from our guests this year. 

Co-hosts Jay McMahon & Ron Dalgliesh really enjoyed cueing up each clip and then providing some commentary and we think you’ll enjoy it just as much. 

We want to say to all our listeners and our prior guests, thanks so much for a fabulous first season!  You’ve asked for it so you’ll get: next season we will have some SWAG as well as a Patreon page available! 

Please enjoy the episode & Happy Holidays Everyone! 
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Jay: 0:00

it's time for get the La Scoop, a podcast bringing you all the people and stuff you should know. In the game of lacrosse, we take LAX seriously, but ourselves, not so much. Join hosts, big Dog and Jaybird, and the biggest names in the game. Brought to you by Jay McMahon lacrosse. That's J M L Skills, mindset, and LAX IQ training. Ron Doish, the big dog, was a collegiate football and lacrosse player at Brown. He was also an assistant lacrosse coach and the executive director of the sports found. and Jay McMahon, the Jaybird, a three time All-American Midfielder Brown. He was a captain of the US Junior National team and is the founder of J M L.

0:43

Hello again everybody, and welcome to a special holiday edition of Get the Lack Scoop. Very special, Ron. Well, Jed, I see you're in the holiday spirit with your little. Red, white and green outfit there. Very, very holiday spirit of you. Very festive. And what are you, I see you're wearing the same old pullover. I mean, did you even watch that thing? You wore the same one every episode. Jay, this is supposed to be a celebration. Jay, it's an athletic podcast. Under Armour, Adidas, for Christ's sake. This isn't a show about the North Pole, Jay. And little Irish elves. You are the epitome. Epitome of athleticism, Ron, so I'm glad you're really on board. You're damn right, Jay. Uh, Jay, so I understand you've done some crack editing of perhaps the most surprising and humorous Snippets that we've gotten from our guests throughout the year. So many great little snippets, so many things to be happy for during this holiday season, Ron. And one of them at the end of our first season, this is our last episode is to just say thanks to all our guests, to all our listeners and let out this hilarity and some of these surprising answers. So I think it's going to be a lot of fun. Okay. I'm looking forward to it. And you know, it's incredible that. You know, we kind of started this thing because we love the game and, and, uh, we promised Jay to bring people the biggest names in the game. And boy, have we delivered. It's been, and I want to thank all our guests who have gone along for the ride and been willing to do this with us. And there's been some great moments. I think I've learned a lot and it's been a lot of fun. Absolutely. It's amazing. You know, some of these guests that we've had, we've done them our entire lives and we thought we knew answers to some of these recruiting questions or training questions. And fact is, we really didn't. I mean, asking these questions, digging in deep, it unearthed a lot of, a lot of great knowledge. And what we're going to go over is how this unearthed a lot of funny. Funny moments over the first season. Hold on, Jay. I'm not done for God's sakes, Jay. Jesus. I also want to say, like, you know, you know, you and I have talked a lot about starting this because we wouldn't have a relationship that's gone on for 30 or 40 years had it not been for the game of lacrosse. And I think we've seen episode after episode the strength of those relationships that are formed in the game, which has also made it really meaningful. It's true. I mean, I would never have been your friend if it wasn't for the game of lacrosse. Well, God knows that's true. I mean, I think our, I think our listeners have gotten a little window into what it is to be the friend of the all American and under 19 world team. And they see what it is to be the friend of the imposing 6 foot 2 or 3 multi hundred pounder with a head larger than the planet Earth. My dome does take up quite a bit of the zoom screen, Jake. Right. And by the way, how's that lawsuit going against the One Hat Fits All? You mean the one size fits all company, Jay, for God's sakes? Well, I mean, you know, I You were going up against Cascade this summer at Lake Classic. Isn't it amazing the time that Jay took to put up the little homage to himself that sits behind his head every day? It's like, look at me! Look at me! All right. I can't wait to edit all this out. Let's get our first clip down. Let's get our first clip. I mean, we started big Jack, right? I mean, I don't know if there are two bigger names in the game than Lars, Tiffany, and Dom stars. You're pretty big.

Dawg: 4:33

I'm watching some of these games, Dom and I mean, it's a tight game at halftime. Big a ACC game and I mean, Lars is just going on. I'm like, his team's already taking a halftime shower in there. They're waiting for him. I mean, does he have any halftime adjustments for him or is he just gonna stand out here and talk to us? Dom

Dom: 4:48

you gotta think about what you're gonna say before you get to the mic and then whatever the question they ask you, you just say what you had in mind. You know, we gotta play better, whatever it's gonna be. And there you go. Tom. We got

Dawg: 4:58

Tom. Good advice. Tom, perhaps a little slap in the back of the hand. We got, look, we just gotta get the next ground ball. I mean, that's what we gotta do here. Right? Exactly. And then, and then you're in the locker room, Dom, both life,

Dom: 5:08

life can be simple dog. Yeah, why complicate

Dawg: 5:11

it, Tom

Steve: 5:14

Love it. Well

Dom: 5:15

guys, hey,

Dawg: 5:15

well thanks so much. Yeah, Dom and Lars, this has been a ton of fun and we really appreciate both of you joining us and kicking off this podcast.

Dom: 5:23

Exactly. It's great seeing you guys and spending this time. This is a real joy. Awesome.

Steve: 5:29

Thanks so much guys.

Lars: 5:30

Thank you, Jay. Thank you, big dog. Thanks, Steve. So much fun.

5:33

We'll, we'll, we'll delete that. Lar we'll delete that. Okay, good. We, we stopped recording right, Ron? Oh, well, yeah. Yeah. We're gonna cut that Nice. Good stuff. I mean, the funny thing there was that Dom just never stops teaching and coaching Lars. I mean, how long has Lars been coaching lacrosse? And he's like, listen, Lars, here's what you do. You get something in your mind. And it, uh, it doesn't have to be big and long, just, just something. Stop with these long interview question answers. Jay, I think that's been the fun thing, right? We've had. So many of the people we've talked to, we've had great relationships with. So, you know, obviously earlier in that episode, I think if you go, if for those of you who didn't listen to that episode, and if you're interested in understanding what it is to get recruited, Dom and Lars just went through everything you need to know about how to get recruited in the game. But then we're also able to have just some, some really funny moments, right? Right. No doubt about it. And we've got a funny moment coming up here where we interviewed Andy towers and David Evans. And, um, David Evans goes through how they went into the MLL, I guess it was a tryout, um, and they're doing one on ones and it just gets, it gets really funny from there. I mean, that interview with Andy Towers and David Evans, you're like having a hang on for dear life. And then all of a sudden they're off on a 10 minute tangent. You're like, can you bring it back please? To the question. Right. Exactly. And this is the question where they come back for the, the major lacrosse league way back in 2001. And uh, we'll let David Evans take it from here.

Ron: 7:12

David, if I can bring you back to the Biltmore. I believe you were the, we were back at the Biltmore,

Dave: 7:18

right? Right. One of them's like, blah, blah, blah. I don't know who it was. I'll leave that out there. All right. I'll just leave it out there. And so all of a sudden, Andy and I are at the quote, the Boston Cannons first year tryouts and I roll up there like. God, I might as well have been eating tailgates. Man, I was fired up. like let's play. This is real, this means something. And I was in Six Shape I, like we were just fired up and Andy shows up, we're like laughing and all of a sudden it's like one on ones. They're doing one on ones and I'm like, these,

Andy: 7:53

these poor

Dave: 7:54

fucking kids, are in trouble. And who shows up? And what I started to do? All right, so you're talking about the National Defensemen of the year, right? Coming outta college and I was skipping line just to go against him every fucking time, And he looks at me and he is like,​I got you again And I'm like yeah I'm I'm doing it on purpose.

Andy: 8:22

And, and how

Ron: 8:23

did that go for him? How did that

Andy: 8:24

go for him? You

Dave: 8:25

know, David, what Ron, we'll just leave that out there too. I know this, at the end of the day, his wrist hurt, I love Ryan Curtis, but that was a tough day for him. Oh, that's so awesome. Yep. That was fun, man. It was fun. So to, finish that off, I know I'm all over the map, but like, we were lucky, man. I was lucky. I felt very privileged to play at that level with those guys. And I would summarize it with this, anybody out there who's like, oh, this talent today. No way, man. Like if you're elite at any level, at any error, you can play. Right. And I always feel like, I firmly believe that because if you're gonna tell me you're gonna put me out there with a bunch of studs, I'm gonna adapt. Right. And I'm gonna figure it out and I'm gonna play with them. Andy's proven that. I feel like I've proven that and I know like guys out there would do the same that Right. like you wanna play at the highest level. You

Jay: 9:20

just, because I feel like it's, your mentality has so much to do with why you're successful. So, like I said, if their skills are different, you're gonna adapt. Right?

Dave: 9:27

You're gonna compete, you're gonna compete. Cuz it

Andy: 9:29

matters. Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. That's right. It's the comp, it's the compete level that ultimately is the reason you succeed because you're just not gonna, you're not gonna stop until you get the desired result.

Dave: 9:42

Right,

Jay: 9:42

right. Absolutely.

9:43

Well, I mean, Jay, you know, first of all, what a hilarious,, interview. But I know you and I both reflected afterwards. Like if you listen to those two, you understand why they were so good. Not only their compete effort, their compete level, their work ethic, but those two guys know and think and understand the game. Um, and yes, they wanted to beat you, right? And they would, you know, be the first to call themselves goons. I think David Evans was calling himself a goon and India goon. And like, they're just kind of idiots. But then when you get down to brass tacks, they really understand the game. They understand what kind of mindset is going to win and what's not. And any towers understands. If you tell third graders to hold a plank, they could hold it all day long. Remember that? Yeah. Oh, I, oh, I, oh, I do Jack. We couldn't quite put that in. It was, it might've been childhood cruelty. So we kept that out. But, I mean, it's no surprise, right? That, Andy is one of the most respected skills trainers in game while also being one of the best coaches in the world at the professional level, having won world championships and why David Evans has built one of the most successful club programs in Lassitus, in the country. Right. Absolutely. Absolutely. The proof is in the pudding. Now, next up, we've got the great John D. Tommaso. Not only was he a four time All American at Johns Hopkins, he was a four time Team USA player. I mean, the guy's just a legend. And the funny thing about him, this iron man of a player, definitely one of the greatest of all time as a defender, you could name like three people, he'd be in everybody's list, is that he is an Elvis fanatic, it turns out. And this is a funny little blurb where we asked him what is his favorite piece of memorabilia, Elvis memorabilia, and it seemed like he couldn't even come up with an answer. So we'll, we'll listen in on that. D

Steve: 11:35

Our, last viewer question comes in from Steve p from Rockwell Center, New York, and he says, John, what is the most outrageous piece of Elvis memorabilia that you own? Okay, so what You know, by the way, if you have to think about that, that's up to you. Got a lot outrageous Elvis. First of all, top three. Come on. Elvis is, I mean, you guys have to, Elvis is Americana.

Jay: 12:03

I've been to Graceland twice. I mean, I've, you know, I really, I didn't know that. Wow. Yeah,

Steve: 12:08

But my daughter got me for Christmas one year a ticket to an Elvis show, which was, from the Nassau Coliseum. And interestingly enough that Elvis died August 16th, 1977. Right. But, when he passed away, one of his next shows, was to come to the Nassau Collosseum. Really? I have a ticket, an unused ticket to that. Oh wow. Was crazy. Yeah, it's in a little case. I do have, you said top three. I have probably 10 ornaments that I hang on the tree. You know, that's like, is that all? Only 10 gotten to be a little funny. No, I did not know this about you. No. It's gotten to be a little comical, obviously, but it, but to me he's, you know, do you have any of the onesies, like the big jumpsuits with the boots that he'd wear? Yeah, I mean, listen, the whole thing, and I'll tell you, I like that. I mean, Jay, by the way, I look. Yeah. Course I do it. What do you, I mean, that's not a question. Don't have to answer that. Pretty cool. So Jay and Steve, I think, you know, one of the things we, we really wanted to do in starting this podcast was bring people together who Through the game of lacrosse have developed incredible relationships. It's been so fun to watch you two be here with us today. And the relationships like peeling the onion every year. There was something else from high high school coaching to the club. No, you, you're right. We probably missed some things too. I mean, yeah, we, it's just been so much fun now podcast that made it an hour and a half or, that's great. But you know, who says we like to talk, Brad? I dunno. Well, I fill in the blanks. You, kind of lead the show. Yeah. I think John won the time of possession. Brad, I think he won the time of on this podcast, so. Yeah. Yeah. And so he should and so he should. No, it was great. Both contributed mightily. Guys, thanks so much. It's just amazing to have two legends of the game that, as Jay said, really, we're part of inspiring our love for the game. And we're so grateful to have you with us and you're continuing to inspire people and, train'em and teach'em. It's awesome. We appreciate. Yeah, listen. Yeah, it's a passion. Listen, we both, we love the game and we're continuing it on. So that's great. Well, thanks a lot guys. Really appreci guys. A lot of fun. Thanks for, thanks for include us. Really appreciate it.

14:29

Good stuff. Brad McLam and John T. Tommaso. Jay, what's, what's hilarious to me, right, is, you know, like you and I, Brad and John have known each other forever. Right. And, and Brad has no idea of, uh, Vito's Elvis. Right. It's like we were bringing him out of the closet. Oh my god. And he's wearing an Elvis singlet with, with the rhinestones and all the trimmings. And of course, uh, Jay, that brings us to the, the third member of our team, only Steve Grisalfi. Right. We'd bring that out in, uh, you know, from the four time world teamer, we'd be talking about Elvis. Right. It was beautiful. Only Steve. And Jay, that one like totally brought me back. To my youngest memories of the game, my earliest memories of the game, going to Johns Hopkins and watching John D. Tommaso. I think I said during that episode, that's when I fell in love with the game was watching those Hopkins teams. And he was just, oh my God, he was so tough. Like he just oozed toughness. That's Long Island for you, baby. But I got to say, I'm a little jealous that you could just hop in the car and go and watch Hopkins every other weekend, all season long. That's pretty cool. That was the great thing about growing up in Maryland. I mean, there were so many great games you could watch as a young kid, you know, and they, they, those guys became your idols and guys from my high school, you know, Brian Wood and Craig Bubier playing on Homewood Field. I remember when I was coaching at Brown and we went down to scrimmage Hawkins in a preseason game and I was like I don't know. It was like this life's dream to like coach or play on that field, you know, and just being there as a young kid from Maryland was something special. That's amazing. Beautiful. Now, speaking of legends, we had a lot of legends out there for Hopkins and playing against Hopkins. Our next is the coaching legend, Coach Tierney. And the funny and surprising answer was, he's, we're initially talking about his championship in 2001, where Two, his two sons were on the team. And then he gets into the year earlier when Princeton was a big underdog to UVA and they managed to pull it off. But let's, we'll let Coach Tierney take it from here. as a lot of people know, you had both your sons on the team in 2001. I was at that game, where went into OT and. I'm from Garden City High School, BJ Prager gets, the game winner. I just had the note in here that I've coached my son and travel and I love going in the backyard and shooting with him, and it is literally a thrill. Tell me what it's like to have both your sons that you've coached get out there and have an over team overtime win the national championship. It's gotta be something. Yeah, it's the one j you know, I've had, since I announced this retirement on January 5th or sixth this year, probably the most asked question of me has been you've been a part of these seven championships as a head coach, can you pick one? And, I almost, feel selfish about it because you had that first one at Princeton. You had the first one here at Denver. you had the three p all this stuff that you were so blessed to be around. But I can tell you that, that day is I still get the chills. And even when you were reading it as getting goosebumps, you know, like having those two guys on the field, Brendan, you know, Trevor was a first team all-American goalie. Uh hmm. He, still mad at BJ For scoring that. Cause he felt like he would've been the MVP that game. But, as I told him though, if, he hadn't let Michael Powell score with 18 seconds right, he would, he would not worry about it. Michael Powell's a freshman. The whole has given the ball to this freshman. I'm standing there. I couldn't believe my eyes. Uh, yeah. I was something And he had a freshman covering him in Damien Davis. So that was Oh, it was okay. Quite a matchup. Yeah. But anyway, and so Brendan was a guy who was, you know, five nine, a buck 45 at, best. He was a junior in his sophomore year. Actually, interestingly enough, you mentioned BJ in Brendan's sophomore year, BJ blew his knee out. Mm-hmm. So Brendan actually started for us, more than half the season, in 2000 at attack. And, funny story, in 2000 we're playing Virginia, in the semi-final mm-hmm. And behind our, you guys are underdogs. Right. And that was a big situation, right? Yeah. Yeah. And so behind our bench is a bunch of Virginia students that, were almost as congenial as Brown students when they root against you and, Denver ones for that matter. But, they're just harassing us. And every time we came to a timeout that the cheer was basically about Brendan, you're only playing cuz your father's the coach and you're only playing Cuz Anyway, what they didn't know is my 16 year old daughter Breen, who's now the head coach at Kent State mm-hmm. Was sitting amongst them or in, in front of them and with a. Two or three minutes left, Brendan scores what turned out to be the winning goal. And uh, wow. She waits, she, the game ends. She stands up and turns around and goes, that's my brother. Oh my God. And so, then the, I would bore you with stories, if you couldn't see that, what you did is stood up and gave a double bird flip to those UVA fans. 16 year old Brian., but yeah, that was, that was great. Uh, hilarious. Again, this was one of those things where you and I have been around, you know, Bill Tierney, our, our whole lacrosse lives. And obviously, you know, if not the greatest, certainly among the top three greatest coaches in the game ever, period. And, you know, I hope for our listeners. You know, if you see Bill Tierney on, on a sideline during a game, that's one persona, but he's really just a funny, kind guy when you get them in this kind of a setting and learning about how much time he spent mentoring the next generation of coaches. You know, we had him on with coach Mike Daly and Mike talking about how much, how supportive Bill Tierney has been over him. And his whole career and how much time he spent with them. It's just, again, it was another example of getting to know a different dimension of somebody you think, you know, right, exactly. Yeah. On the sideline. I mean, he is a tough customer, not very pleasant, not, not very forgiving. Or giving, but, uh, I know a lot of people, including coach Lars. Tiffany has said he is like one of the most generous guys in the game with his time, with his expertise. He'll just, he's willing to help so many people. So that was great to see that side of them. Now next day, talk about the whole object. Talk about generous. I mean, who the hell are we? We're like a few weeks into this new podcast. He's just announced his retirement. He's getting interviewed by everybody and he takes time to come on with us and Mike Daly. And so, you know, just want to thank coach Tierney. It's going to be a weird thing. I mean, obviously since you and I played in college, there's never been a college season without Bill Tierney. So it's going to be strange this spring to not have him on the sidelines. Certainly is. And for that interview with us, he had just flown back from the Final Four National Championship where he was on TV like the whole weekend and he like just got home, jumps on the interview with us and Coach Daly and it was, it was really great stuff. Now next up we have Alan and Darren Lowe. The, U. S. Hall of Fame father son tandem, and then, of course, Kevin Lowe is another U. S. Hall of Famer, and, that's Darren's brother, that's Alan's other son, and they talk a little bit about how, as they were growing up, Alan Lowe was the head coach at Manhasset High School, And that's only a few towns over from Mineola High School. Uh, Alan did not want to coach his sons, he thought it would be better if they went to high school in the town that they were living in, which was Mineola, you know, with their dad. So they would play each other every year, though. So this is a little snippet on what some of those games were like. Let me get this set up for you guys. Here we go.

Steve: 22:35

all right. Now this one comes in from Jim s from Ridgefield, Connecticut, and he writes Darren, in 1988, your upstart high school team at Minola played the powerhouse Manhasset team coached by your father. Is it true that your grandmother was watching the game and rooted for man Hassett and against you subject dad?

Alan: 23:00

I dunno. I dunno.

Darren: 23:02

My grandmother never rooted for me against my father. the truth comes out, probably explains the complex I have.

Alan: 23:11

I don't know. I don't know about that I dunno. How did that game work out, father? That's a tough, that's a tough game though. As I said before, when, when my kids played against each other, Darren and Kevin played against each other. Oh. The two worst games I've ever went to.

Jay: 23:27

But then when you played against Aaron, would you take like your worst defenseman and put'em on Darren so you know

Alan: 23:33

No. You tempted No, no. We double teamed. Triple. No. You wanted to win. Actually they beat us once. They beat us once and after the game and after the game, Bob Rule goes, ow He goes, ow. They just beat us. He was a defensive coordinator. No, that was funny. And I think the year before. Next question. Oh, I'm sorry. Hey, let'em finish up there. The year before what? The year before we beat'em, like, you know, you get in one of these games, it was over a mini and we beat'em like 20 to one. But my goalie scored a goal. I put'em on a pack. You know, you're trying to get everybody in the game and you're trying to keep the score down. You can't, it's hard to tell kids not to shoot, but the kids who never play, you know, you have to get'em in the game cause you want'em to practice hard.

Ron: 24:19

You know, Darren, I, I like how Alan stuck it in there. Yeah. And then there was that game. We beat him 20 to one, my goalie score. I mean, James, but then Beat, beat Us. It was on Long Island Sports Network. Barry, Barry Flanders was right. The announcer Barry Landers did Barry. Oh yeah. And he asked my father at the end of the game, like, what are you gonna do with your son now? You beat him 20 to four today. He goes, I'm gonna have him cook me some steaks in the grill. Oh, that's great.

Darren: 24:49

There's our relationship in a nutshell,

24:51

Good stuff from the Lowe's. Yeah, I mean, Jay, that, that was pretty cool. Uh, you know. Have a father son combination who both played on the world team I mean God, I think what what what lacrosse talent in that family between Allen and Darren and Kevin Lowe Unbelievable. That's amazing the trifecta of Hall of Famers and then that was funny just to hear, you know the dynamic and Coach Lowe not afraid to have Darren Not add a little insult to injury there and have them cook cook the meal that night. Yeah. Well, you know, obviously Mr. Lowe just, while in his sweet way, just was letting you know he was quite the competitor himself back in the day. And, and, you know, you asking, well, you know, would you put your worst defenseman on him? No, we'd double and triple team him. Oh, right. No way. I was like, he was like pissed when I asked that question. Yeah, exactly. Jay, are you kidding me? I was like, what? No, no, we'd scheme them. He was our best player. We'd double and triple him and beat them 22 to 4. Right. Oh, that's hilarious. Beautiful. You know, Jay, it was also pretty cool listening to Alan Lowe, who, you know, I always knew he was a legend in Long Island lacrosse, but I mean, really the guy who built U. S. lacrosse or the precursor to U. S. lacrosse on Long Island. So, you know, really generations of lacrosse players, um, you know, owe a lot to Mr. Lowe, not just for what he did at Manhasset, but what he did for lacrosse on Long Island. Absolutely. No doubt about it. And he built up Team USA and then he was involved in the Junior Team USA, especially when they had their first, home stand at Hofstra, but he was instrumental in getting that thing up and rolling and doing all kinds of fundraising. So you're right. I mean, we all owe a tremendous debt of gratitude to Alan Lowe and the great family he's produced. And then, you know, Jay, God knows that we would give, uh, Darren Lowe, you know, just a little bit of grief every now and again, but just a little, you know, you look back, I mean, w we obviously had the chance to play with every day one of the greatest players in the game period. You know, and while Darren, it pains me to say that it's just true, right? I mean, he's just a remarkable player who continues to do a lot for the game, you know? The leaders of U. S. lacrosse and, you know, when you see lacrosse now going on to the Olympics, I mean, Darren continues to play an instrumental part in the growth of the game. No doubt about it. It is painful, but you know, as they say, the truth hurts. On to our next clip we have from our episode Married to Lacrosse with Tom and Lynn Dwyer. Lynn won a national championship at Harvard in 1990 and Tom Dwyer. Did not, but he was a nice little player as we get into a nice little player. Nice little player. Yep. And a good friend of ours. And, but this is great cause they're talking, you know, we're saying how important lacrosse is with relationships. One interview after the next. And then we interviewed Tom and Lynn and they met, uh, they'd never met before. They were out in England and they meet coaching lacrosse. And then the day they get married is what this clip is all about. So listen into this

Ron: 28:09

to hear that intriguing

28:10

Story, please tune in next week. As we continue with our final series of our first season, it's going to be a doozy.

Ron: 28:20

until we meet again, here to, hoping you find the twine. We're signing off here at the Get the LAX coop. Thanks again so much. We will see you the next time.